Should President Obama show his birth certificate to the American public?
Claire Vecchio Hickey: Yes he needs to show it. He is the President - not the King.
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Susan Marisi Kerwin
LMAO! UNBELIEVABLE!! I think the Water in Texas is poisoning you! : )I cannot believe that *people* still are going for this bullcrap... WTF?????You are blowing my mind! LOL!
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Claire Vecchio Hickey
Well Susan, you cannot prove what you believe anymore than I can. The water in Illinois is full of shit as well. Isn't it great that we can have opinions(that's what they are) that differ, and neither one of us will be thrown in prison or executed for them? I don't agree with you, but I respect you. :)
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The previous was a comment written in response to my vote in a poll published on Facebook. The poll is: Should Barack Obama show his birth certificate to the American Public?
If you know me, you know that I don't have a problem when the opinions of others differ from my own. Liberal or Conservative. What is right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. I also believe the Right and Left keep each other in check, while all the others in between keep an eye on them both. And for the record, I refuse to join either party. I like to think for myself without having to check with someone else first, and refuse to be put in a box, so to speak.
Did you read what SMK wrote? First she wrote, "UNBELIEVABLE!!" As if there was absolutely no question about the authenticity of the Certificate Of Live Birth, which is not the same as a Birth Certificate. And that those of us who expect the president to adhere to the same rules as the rest of us are morons, and fools for expecting President Obama to have the same birth certificate as everyone ele born in Hawaii in 1961. Yes, the President finally produced the previously mentioned Certificate of Live Birth. Notice the titles are different? Why is this so?? The Birth Certificate is a long form, including mother's maiden name, father's name, whether or not the birth was legitimate(back then this was included), race, father's occupation, doctor's name, hospital name, date and time of birth. The Certificate of Live Birth doesn't have the name of the hospital, location of the hospital, or the name of the doctor. So you see why there would be some doubt.
I can't speak for anyone else, but as far as I'm concerned, this has nothing to do with Left vs. Right. Personally I don't give a shit which side a person is on. We are talking about being PRESIDENT, not a KING. Presidents are not supposed to be above the law. If it was you or I in Obama's shoes, we'd have to produce the correct document, no excuses. Why not him? And we all know damn well that if the situation was reversed the Democrats would be screaming it from the rooftops in Washington D.C.
Then it got personal. She indicated that there must be something horribly wrong with anyone who voted the way I did, as well as to imply that Texans are ignorant, backward idiots who can't see beyond the borders of their state. Sue has been heavily influenced by ignorant stereotypes and has obviously never been here. Then she tried to downplay her outrage by adding the "LOL" abbreviation in several places. Say what you mean and mean what you say, Sue.
And what about the part that says, "I cannot believe that *people* are still going for this bullcrap...."?? Is she indicating that Texans are not human? What are we then? Humanoid? Are we a sub-species of human? Or a species unto ourselves? What does it mean, Sue? That word refers to me personally so I have a right to know. If you want to believe what you wrote, like I said, you've got a right to your own opinion. But I also have a right to take offense when someone strips me of my humanity. That's low. If that is indeed what you meant.
Most of you have figured out by now that this blog is NOT about whether President Obama produced an authentic birth certificate or not. That argument is moot now anyway. There has been so much uproar on BOTH sides that a counterfeit certificate could have easily been fabricated by now, or the real one destroyed(if you consider what they produced authentic.) Not only that, people will always see what they want to see, even if the truth is staring them in the face. That goes for Liberals AND Conservatives.
That kind of thinking is what Communists and Nazi's ascribe to. How else could all those people live within odor distance of places like Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Sobibor and NOT know that human flesh was being burned in those deathcamps? Not to mention the fact that the Polish locals LIVED THERE. Don't tell me that they didn't see huge areas of buildings surrounded by barbed wire fence, Nazi guards, complete with skeletal human beings working themselves to death and deemed undesirable by the Nazi government? How could they NOT KNOW???? Because they didn't want to see it. For whatever reason.
I also remember learning in school about people being whisked right off the streets, and out of their homes in the Soviet Union and never seen again - all for disagreeing with the government. If someone tried to cry out for their civil rights, or against the Kremlin for any reason, they were taken away from society forever, lest anyone else start getting the same ideas.
Verbal attacks on people who disagree with you, although not nearly as barbaric, is from the same mindset. That's what I take offense to here. These verbal vilifications go from making fun of people, to ridicule, to harassment, all the way to physical violence against the opposition. Individuals like this feel entitled to launch a verbal blitzkrieg against anyone who expresses a dogma that differs from their own. These folks are like a pack of Nazi-pitbulls. There is no room for debate, redress, or modification; Nazi-Pitts are right, everyone else is wrong. They attack by clamping down on the metaphorical neck of the victim with their fangs and shake and shake and never let go. The intent being to rip the voice right out of it's prey and shut them up forever. ~This is the antithesis of what the American mindset ought to be.
I have witnessed this type of belief system in both Liberal AND the Conservatives. I've seen people of BOTH persuasions on the offensive with this type of arsenal. Attacking. Attacking. Always attacking. To retreat is to admit there is a possibility that they, and at least part of their belief system could be wrong. As far as I'm concerned they are all a bunch of control freaks who only make life worse for the rest of us. The attitude of these people isn't worth the scum on the bottom of my shoes. The sewer is too good for those kind of ethics.
Thank God that as Americans we are all entitled to our own opinions, guaranteed by the Constitution(at least for the time being.) And another, "for the record", I do not hate President Obama. I don't believe that he is the Devil Incarnate. Neither do I agree with his socialist ideas. But I have respect for the man. Not for what he wants to do with our beloved country, but because he is President. Like it or not, he's here for the next four years. He is Commander In Chief. Remember, "Render unto Caesar, the things that are Caesar's. Render unto God, those things that are God's"- Matthew 22:21. God commands that we pray for our leaders, He didn't say under what circumstance to do so. He simply said to do it. I won't let go of what I believe to be right, not for anyone. But neither will I stoop to the level of a four year old and bad-mouth the guy. I see nothing wrong with questioning authority. Not a thing wrong with it. In fact I believe it imperative that Americans do so. Every one of us. Why? Absolute authority corrupts absolutely. We need to hold our leaders accountable. ALL of them. No one should be able to escape scrutiny. But there has to be respect along with the questions. Otherwise you are just as bad as you think they are.
So Sue, if you read this, it is not a message of hate from me. The antithesis of love is not hate. It's indifference. There is no hate or indifference towards you in it. Like I said two or three times already, you have a right to your opinion, no matter how right or wrong you may be. And I respect that. What you wrote, though, was a personal attack on my intelligence, my character, and a state you have never lived in. Let me remind you that you don't know me. You don't know anything about me or what is in my heart. I've hardly seen you in the last 35 years. Why do you assume that there has to be something wrong with the water in Texas - if only in a metaphorical sense? I have my reasons for feeling the way I do, as I'm sure you do. But I'm not going to attack you for it. I suggest self-examination on your part, starting with your feet that stink just as bad as mine.